Dissenting views – Part II

This article is one of those rare articles, in which Lady Lydia has permitted rude comments. Many a time this article gets deleted, but still if you search you might get it. Meanwhile, thecurrent link to this article is here.

Earlier, this article was on the side-bar, but I guess it was attracting more negative comments so it has once more been relegated to obscurity.
Dissenting views:
I decided to collect “dissenting views” (which are often rude comments) here and keep it on one post. Readers are welcome to give a ready answer for the reason of the hope that is in you, regarding the role of wife, mother and homemaker! Just remember not to slip into the same kinds of insults as the dissenters dish out.

Lady Lydia says:
Now to address the objection to “getting all that education and then becoming a homemaker.” Your education is not enough for homemaking. There are no schools, anymore, that can help you. It is a self-taught experience. There were some schools in previous centuries, for women, that dealt with managing the home efficiently, but they were scorned out of existence by the 20th century feminists and their mocking educational establishments. Now we have women who are so ignorant they cannot boil water. I’m sure there were those types in the olden days, too, but they were always looked on as less than marriageable and more ornamental. Today we have women scoffing at the idea of homemaking and yet they don’t realize that they too are merely ornamental. They love to dress up in the latest fashion and go to the bar and show off their newly pierced skin and their new rags that costs them way over the price of the fabric itself. Education will not teach you how to have a lasting marriage, raise good children, and keep the family afloat financially. Education will not tell you how to teach your own children at home. Your education doesn’t count, when it comes to real life with real people. Some people are book smart and some people are people smart, but unfortunately, modern education makes you neither. It prepares you to work the rest of your life for a wage. It prepares you to care about rewarding yourself with material things. There are many find female doctors and lawyers, but if they had to put their kids in daycare in order to pursue those careers, what contribution do they really make? The children of daycare are getting cheated so that their mothers can pursue a career. Getting all that education will not get you the kisses and the tender moments during the day with your children. It will not get you a good man who will give his life for you, and sacrifice his fortune. It will not give you a good church. It does not give you the memories that really matter in life.
Anonymous says:
Sandra says:
Well, anon,
First you shouldn’t use all Caps – it’s impolite. 
Second, it may come as a shock to you, but Christians are still the biggest world religion, so there are plenty of people who believe the Bible.
Third, Lydia doesn’t have to “get away” with anything, she lives in a country where free speech is allowed, so that she can criticise education as much as she wishes.
Lady Lydia says:
If I “hated” education, it wouldn’t make much since to be studying so much, nor would it have made sense to home school in the classical education for 10plus years. There is a big difference between learning and educational philosophy of different establishments and that is where I draw lines. One should always be a learner, but once a certain kind of formal education is used, it is possible to lose the love of learning or to become set in your ways.I have seen more grads and degree-bearers who have closed minds, than homemakers, and homescvhoolers who are always finding educational opportunities in every day life. I could go on and on about the experiences I’ve had with college kids who don’t want to consider any views but the ones they have been indoctrinated with, but there is enough on the web about it already. Read the book, “The Closing of the American Mind.”
Anonymous says:
I can’t understand why you haven’t been shut down. You and your ilk belong in a museam, not on a front page. Makes me shudder to think you could spread this around and drag us all back into the past. Women don’t have to be stupid anymore. They have been liberated or haven’t you heard? You should read your history better. We don’t have to confine ourselves to the house anymore. Now, we can be anything we want to be. Why don’t you get an education and make something of yourself?
Margaret says:
Anonymous, I find it very amusing that the one who is telling Lydia to get an education is the one who exhibits appalling spelling mistakes!
If we are liberated, why are you even leaving your comments? Surely liberation applies to all areas of life. Surely liberation means women can do whatever they want, up to and including staying at home, if that is what they wish.
As for being stupid and confined to the house…I have finished university for the summer. Since mum has not finished work yet, I clean for her, and sometimes cook. Yet, amongst all this, I am continuing my education…I am currently reading works of philosophy. Education does not have to stop when you leave a formal house of education. Read what Lydia says above about closemindedness in college students.
I do not consider myself an unliberated woman.
Lady Lydia says:
Dear Stupid (the way you spaced your post, makes it look like that is how you signed your name),
Your post was so loaded with subject matter, I hardly know where to begin. I will discuss the “you are living in the past” issue, for now.
I could ask you if you ride a bicycle to University. Many people do. If so, maybe you are the one living in a past. I drive a car.
A ridiculous comparison, I know, but isn’t just about everything we do in some way, connected to the past? Most of it was invented in the Victorian era. I sometimes wonder if, left with nothing, any of us could invent the things that have been handed down to us from the past. Do you use a telephone? You are somewhat in the past, for it was invented before you were born. Do you use a washing machine or an elevator? It all comes from the past. 
Yes, you don’t have to be confined to the house. You can now be confined to a building all day long until the whistle blows for quitting time. At least, at home, women are free to come and go as they please, when they need to, without having to punch a time card.
I know how you feel, though, as there seems to be a stage in everyone’s life when they think that becoming a wife and homemaker is about the most stupid choice in the world. You can grow out of it, though. It just takes maturity and an open mind.
Georgina says:
It is people like you that hold women back and keep them from going forward and accomplishing their dreams. What if I wanted to be an interpreter, or a scientist? In my country, women staying at home is a thing of the past. There are no home makers any more. If you persuade women to go home, they will not have a salary any longer and they will be literally locked up in the house all day, under the control of their husbands. There are places to accommodate children: daycares and schools, or haven’t you heard? As for food having to be home cooked, I don’t see the difference. As for housekeeping, I can afford to have help, so I won’t be doing any house work, and can concentrate on my career.I think you ought to be banned from the web.
Sandra says:
It’s people like you Georgina who would drag all women into work force against their will, like they did in Sweden.
It’s people like you who force affirmative action on employers, so that less qualified women are hired over men just because they are of the right gender.
It’s people like you who spread misandric hystery in the society and accuse all men of being controlling, abusive etc. 
It’s people like you who leave their kids in the day care to be raised by strangers without any second thought. It’s your right, of course, but it’s people like you who want to force it on all the women in all the countries. 
And finally, it’s people like you who are against free speech as you want to shut all the dissent.
You and your kind are really dangerous, not Lydia.
Lady Lydia says:
I will address one aspect that fits your entire post.
Suppose the government mandated that everyone buy government bread. People lined up each morning for their share of government bread. The government said that it was better because it had all the nutrients in it and had been inspected. 
However what if there were some women who learned to bake their own bread and give it to their family? It tasted better and the children were in better health because they ate their own home made bread. The mothers didn’t have to stand in line and spend money on government bread, so they had more time for their husband and children. The home made bread had fresher ingredients than the government bread. The mothers were not as tired out because they didn’t have to go out for their daily rationof government bread. The money was not being spent on that bread and was used for other things the family needed, because the ingredients for home made bread were a lot less expensive.
Now let us say some people got very upset at these women saying they should have to stand in line like everybody else. It wasn’t fair that they were baking their own bread, and it would soon take them all back into the dark ages where everyone had to bake their own bread. Wasn’t government bread progress? Why would anyone want to make their own bread when government bread was available so cheap and without all that labor?
Also let us suppose that a woman wants to make her own clothes rather than buy clothes from a factory, where women work at very low wages. Instead, she buys the best fabrics and makes her own. Some women who work say that isn’t fair because she doesn’t work in the factory and makes her own clothes. They think she will take them all back from the progress they have made (working outside the home in a factory, of course) and send them into the dark ages where women made their own clothes at home.
Or let us suppose that the government sent maids to homes during the day when the women were all at work, and one woman decided to clean her own house. It was personal to her and she wanted to make sure it was done right. It enabled her to see things that needed improving, whereas a maid might not notice. She also wanted to teach her children to clean house, so she stayed home and cleaned her own house. Some women objected because they thought she would take them all back to the dark ages where women stayed home, cleaned their own houses, baked their own bread and sewed their own clothes. In the meantime, the women who bought into the government idea of “liberating” them from the home, continue to go day after day and stand in lines to get their government bread, or spend money on gas so they can get to work somewhere else.
On another subject: wouldn’t it be better not to use so much gas? It is horribly expensive. How much could be saved if women could stay home and just let their husbands go to work. But in spite of the great big choice it was supposed to be, the choice to go to work, it is no longer a choice to many women. Now, they HAVE to work. And, you know the reasons why: debt, husbands who refuse to provide for the family, high house payments, and so forth. It looks like coming home may be more liberating than you think.

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